A Gilmore Girls Guide to Dating: What Makes a Good First Date?

A Gilmore Guide to Dating: The First Date

Good news first: In the Gilmore world, dating can be fun and inventive and you can enjoy the hell out of it. Especially if it’s snowing.

Lorelai’s official first date with Rory’s English teacher Max Medina is brought on by snow, Lorelai’s magical snow. His car chooses to break down in Stars Hollow while Rory is stranded at Richard and Emily’s, giving them a chance to get to know each other a little better, mooching around town and dicing with spicy Fiesta burgers which they take to the Black & White & Read movie night. They chat, smooch a little and he cajoles himself into the house, where unfortunately (for the grown-ups), Lane interrupts, waiting for Rory.

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Dates are stressful on a number of levels. You’re with a stranger, often doing some activity to keep your mind off having to talk – when really the whole date is about getting more familiar and having to, y’know… talk. Lorelai and Max had a good time because they have a little banter, they’re a good match and it’s all the more charming because it was unexpected and natural. But Lorelai’s realistic about it:

Rory: Do you love him?
Lorelai: I uh… We had one date. It was a great date, World Series level… but it was just a date.
(s01e08 Love and War and Snow)

Lorelai’s first date with Jason ‘Digger’ Stiles is a good demonstration of the importance of finding the right activity. Do something you’re both comfortable with. A private room at a posh restaurant sounds nice, but isn’t fun enough for her tastes; the Taco Barn drive-thru is too exotic for him. Find common ground and if you’re confident enough, pare it right back, say, to plastic furniture outside a grocery store with a small can of Pringles and Sno Balls (ah, Sno Balls, you’ll be missed). The more quirky the activity, the better the stories you’ll be able to tell the grandkids (hey, I’m an optimist).

Likewise, Alex identifies a common interest, inviting her along for a coffee tasting recce. Less stressful than a formal dinner and very conducive for chatting, between sharing opinions on the brews, they’re people watching, getting a caffeine buzz and in all probability, mercilessly mocking the other clientele. Fishing as a second date though, not so hot.

If you’re courageous, make it personal. Take your date somewhere that means something special to you. Say, Sniffy’s Tavern with Luke and his wallet full of horoscope. As a couple, Luke and Lorelai had been building for a while before their official first date, so he was able to expose his sensitive side straight away:

[Luke tells the story of the first time they met, when Lorelai wrote over his horoscope and told him to hold onto it, to keep it in his wallet. That it would bring him luck.]
Lorelai: Uhm I can’t believe you kept this.. You kept this in your wallet? You kept this in your wallet.
Luke: Eight years.
Lorelai: Eight years.
Luke: Lorelai. This thing we’re doing here, me – you. I just want you to know I’m in. I am all in. Does that uh – are you… scared?
[Lorelai shies away, then glances up at him, smiling. She doesn’t look scared.]
(s05e03 Written In The Stars)

There’s some anti-April sentiment (Luke’s daughter he never knew he had, not the month) on the discussion boards, which I think is largely a reaction to this moment. When things between Luke and Lorelai become muddy and Luke becomes confused about his paternal priorities, he effectively takes back the touching moment at Sniffy’s. But it’s not April’s fault.

Rory has her fair share of first dates too, especially after she starts college. Although it’s not all good:

Rory: I feel like I was locked in to a pointless societal ritual. There has to be another way.
Lorelai: Luke and I were debating that. Luke thinks it’s all about gut instinct. You know instantly if a person’s right for you. I think you have to go through a lot to find a contender. You’ve been very lucky with boys before, they were just sort of there. But, I think for the most part a girl’s gotta hunt a little.
Rory: And go through a lot of non-contenders.
Lorelai: Yes but then your non-contenders become your fun bad date anecdotes.
(s04e05 The Fundamental Things Apply)

Which leads me onto… Bad Dates in the Gilmore Girls (A Necessary Evil)

Halfway through a disastrous first date at Yale, Rory calls home for advice while Clark-Kent-a-like Trevor is in the bathroom. Luke’s there too, Lorelai’s captive Casablanca guinea pig:

Rory: I’ve already forgotten everything he said to me, the name of his brother and sister and best friend and we’re sitting on the same side of the table, we keep bumping menus and my neck already hurts from trying to turn and look at him when he talks. Can I tell him to sit on the other side?
Lorelai: Honey, you just have to relax. ‘Cos it’s just a date and sometimes dates don’t go well.
Luke: Dating’s the worst.
Lorelai: Don’t worry about the conversation. Just talk and if the talk doesn’t flow, it doesn’t. And stay away from urine-related topics.

But Lorelai has the experience to know that bad dates can have good sides. And she should know…

rune

Sookie and Jackson are on their first date, Lorelai is helping out by double-dating Jackson’s flat-cap-toting cousin, Rune – an unintentionally funny little man, disgusted by Lorelai’s height and size 9 feet. They leave the stuffy French restaurant in favour of Luke’s and after Jackson and Sookie start to relax and get rid of Rune (“Bye Loon!”), they can properly talk – leaving Lorelai and Luke to play a little poker over the counter where Luke first raises the suggestion of Lorelai going out sometime.

Lorelai: God that’s nice. The whole first date beginning of the relationship glow, everything’s new and exciting.
Luke: Every joke is hilarious.
Lorelai: Every little touch is incredible. That is a good feeling.
Luke: It is at that.
(s01e12 Double Date)

In the same episode, Rory and Dean are double-dating for Lane Kim and airhead Todd, which comes to a head when ultra-strict Mrs Kim finds out. The confession by Rory about how she lied to Lorelai to prevent Lorelai having to lie to Mrs Kim throws out one of my favourite lines:

Lorelai: I have to know where you are at all times, especially when you have my shoes on.

Some final pearls from Luke and Lorelai:

Luke: I mean dating, it’s a horror.
Lorelai: It’s the only cure for the singleness thing barring ordering a spouse off the internet.

Lorelai: But dating is how you get to know your potential partner. It’s the only way.
Luke: There’s the gut. I can tell if I’m comfortable with someone within seconds of meeting them.

Which camp are you in, Luke or Lorelai’s? Ever had Luke’s gut feeling? Or is dating the only way?
What’s your worst date ever?
Which is your favourite Gilmore first date?

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A Gilmore Girls’ Guide to Dating: Part Two – The Pre-Date

In the Gilmore world, how do you get from being interested to actually dating?  

Pop Quiz: Who’s this, asking Lorelai out?

?: We’ve known each other for a good amount of time and our paths have crossed, professionally and socially a number of times all with relatively pleasant results and, well, I was just wondering if you would like to have dinner with me.
Lorelai: Oh.
?: In two weeks.
Lorelai: Two weeks?
?: I heard you have a cold, I think two weeks is enough to ensure the virus is out of your system.

Answer at the end.

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So, there’s this potential guy or girl, you’ve watched her from afar, say, sitting under trees reading books or in band practice and you really want to touch his hair (do NOT touch his hair). What next?

Well friends, it’s Part 2 of the (really just an excuse to re-live some of the warm and fuzzies) Gilmore Guide to Dating.

II: The Pre-Date

What’s a pre-date? I’ll hand over to the expert, Rory’s high school teacher Mr. Max Medina. He’d only met Lorelai a couple of times and the second time was to tell her that Rory couldn’t sit the test that they’d revised for all week until they overslept at the kitchen table. So now it’s the Chilton school bake sale and he pulls Lorelai aside and asks if they could meet up some time.

Max: Ok, ok, um how about coffee? Do you like coffee?
Lorelai: Only with my oxygen.
Max: Can we drink some together? (Lorelai sighs) A sort of a pre-date – very casual, no strings, no obligations. We’ll just see if it’s even worth going down the road of including food in the deal (she shrugs, makes mischievous eyes) Just coffee? (sucks her breath through a smile) Decaf? Oh, there’s nothing safer than decaf (defeated huff).
Lorelai: I’m gonna be in town tomorrow because I take a class at Hartford State and there’s a coffee shop across the street that I sometimes – almost all the time – go to around 4:00, usually exactly 4:12. I could not stop a person from entering said establishment at around that time, nor would I avoid them if I knew them, if… they did.
s01e05 Cinnamon’s Wake

So Max had an uphill struggle ahead of him, not only having to support his apparent shunning of Rory’s efforts, but then finessing a date out of Lorelai. He laid the groundwork by leaving an answerphone message that let Lorelai know he was thinking of her and looked forward to their next meeting. Max has a few things on his side: he’s charming and confident and not unhandsome – although I have trouble figuring out what girls find attractive… I always thought Dawson was more handsome than Pacey, mostly because he had more chin but apparently not?

maaaaax medina

Mostly it’s Max’s confidence that gets him through the conversation, breaking down her arguments because he knows that really she’d like to spend time with him and vice versa. He’s got a good feel for the situation and isn’t afraid of being rejected. What’s the worst that could happen? He’s said he likes her and is just asking if she might like him back.  And is she sure?

Max: If there’s something in your gut that you know you feel is right, you’ve gotta go after it, no matter what. What do you say?

It’s a smooth sleight of hand on his part, both physical and verbal and Lorelai’s responses are worth a thousand words, but what we’re really looking at here is The Chase. The period that begins with realising you like someone and that they might like you and ending with one of you asking the other one out. This could go on for years (Luke) or a few days (Alex) and it can be nerve-wracking or sometimes more fun than the eventual relationship.

I’m looking at a few of Lorelai’s beaus here: Max, Alex, Jason and Luke – I don’t think we ever saw the girls having to do the chasing but correct me if I’m wrong… possibly Lorelai’s karaoke?

I think every argument we see between Sookie and Jackson is pre-dating. Maybe even counts as foreplay.

Alex, the coffee shop guy calls Lorelai at home after his friend accidentally asks her friend (Sookie) on a date. Under the guise of asking for some company with his testing different coffee shops for research on his own coffee shop…

Alex: So I was wondering what you were doing this Saturday.
Lorelai: You know, it’s funny you should ask me this, because I just happen to be one of the world’s foremost coffee experts.
Alex: Really?
Lorelai: Oh, yeah, it’s basically just me and this guy named Chuckles in Brazil.
Alex: Sounds like fate. So, what do you say?
Lorelai: Sure.
Alex: Great. Just to be on the safe side, you do know this is a date, right?
Lorelai: Oh, yeah, I got that.
s03e11 I Solemnly Swear

It’s a dazzling first date plan. It’s safe, because there’s something to do, something to talk about, in venues that they’ll actually be able to talk in and hear what the other person is saying. Not like the cinema where you a) have to sit side by side; b) not look at each other; and c) not talk to each other.  Coffee crawl – great plan, Alex.  Fishing as a second date, not so much.

Of course in Stars Hollow once a year you can always buy a date, by being highest bidder on someone’s picnic basket. With it being Stars Hollow, the dafter the rule, the more strictly it’s followed. It’s the perfect solution for Jess, the master of non-conversation, to spend time with Rory without it seeming like prostitution, which is basically what it is.

Jason ‘Digger’ Stiles is the master of The Chase. In their first meeting (which we recounted last week) Lorelai is only there to attack him for pulling the rug out from under her and her mother – and he still nearly wins a date out of it.

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He returns a few episodes later and first talks himself into dinner, masterfully manipulating Emily’s social graces by threatening to go for a cheeseburger. Then under the cover of asking Emily for restaurant recommendations, he asks about cuisines and romantic places, all the while quite openly gauging Lorelai’s tastes. She’s impressed by his tenacity and interest and he’s in her head. He leaves answerphone messages and sends flowers, she finally calls back, refusing his date on the grounds that he’s in business with Richard her father and he’s from that world she has always tried to keep away from.

Jason: How’s the new inn?
Lorelai: Coming along, we’re gonna have horses
Jason: Talking horses?
Lorelai: No, just the regular ones.
s04e08 Die, Jerk

But he says he’ll keep his Saturday reservation at the sought after China Garden open, in case she changes her mind. At the annual Harvard / Yale football game, Richard’s annual lunches with Pennilyn Lott surface and Emily unreasonably blames Lorelai. Frustrated, hurt and knowing how mad it will make Emily, Lorelai calls Jason and finally takes him up on his offer.

With Luke, the pre-dating starts properly after the self-help tape where Luke Can See Her Face:

Self-help audio tape: Whose phone calls or visits are never unwanted or too long? Can you see her face? Who would you most like to have in your life, to ward off moments of loneliness? Do you see her face? When you travel, who would make your travels more enjoyable? Do you see her face? When you’re in pain, who would you most like to comfort you? Do you see her face? When something wonderful happens in your life – a promotion at work, a successful refinancing – who do you want to share the news with? Do you see her face? Whose face appears to you my friend? Whose face?
Luke: Whoa.
s04e20 Luke Can See Her Face

now that i've worn out the world

They slow dance at Liz and TJ’s renaissance wedding, to Sam Phillips’ lilting Reflecting Light and their pre-dating session comes to a close after eight years of banter, coffee and friendship culminating in this, on the porch of the newly renovated Dragonfly Inn:

Luke: Aw, I don’t want to calm down! I did everything right! I did exactly what the book said!
Lorelai: The book?!
Luke: I thought we were on track, and now you’re standing there looking at me like I’m crazy.
Lorelai: I’m not looking at you like you’re crazy!
Luke: You know the last time I bought flowers for someone? Never! That’s when! Very easy stat to remember!
Lorelai: I loved the flowers!
Luke: And then when I walked you home after the wedding, there was a moment. I thought there was a moment.
Lorelai: There was! There was a moment. [A beat. He leans into her.]
Lorelai: What are you doing?
Luke: Will you just stand still?
[He pulls her close, they kiss, then separate. Breathtaken, Lorelai moves toward him.]
Luke: What are you doing?
Lorelai: Will you just stand still?
[She takes his face in her hands and kisses him back. Another beat.]
Kirk: AAAaagGHHH! AAaaghHH! AAAaargGHHH!
s04e22 Raincoats and Recipes

Finally.

The teaser quote was Kirk, who demonstrates as well as any of the other guys, that in the words of Thomas Jefferson, ‘”If you want something you’ve never had, you must be willing to do something you’ve never done.” Also, like Max and Jason (but not Luke), when he gets rebuffed, he gently questions it, but then accepts politely.

At the end of that episode, Lorelai also demonstrates a  gracious way to let someone down:

Kirk: You don’t need any other information?
Lorelai: No I don’t.
Kirk: Because I could have my mother call you.
Lorelai: Totally unneccessary.
Kirk: OK well then go ahead.
Lorelai: I just got out of a really weird relationship and I know that sounds like a line but it isn’t. I’m just not fully over the shock of it yet and I never want to hurt you because you’re my friend and I like you. So I have to say no. I’m sorry.
Kirk: Was the tuna inquiry too personal?
Lorelai: Oh no I thought it was very thoughtful.
Kirk: You’re sure you won’t feel like it any time soon?
Lorelai: Yeah, I’m sure.
Kirk: Well at least I asked. Good night Lorelai.
s03e02 Haunted Leg

Who was your favourite? Am I really the only person in the world who liked Jason best?

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A Gilmore Girls’ Guide to Dating: Part One – How to Find the Right Person… And Then What to Say

A Gilmore Girls’ Guide to Dating

We loved the banter, the hijinks and the serious family dysfunction, but the first thing that comes to mind when recollecting Gilmore Girls is the relationships: Lorelai and Luke, Rory and Logan, Lorelai and Max, Rory and Jess, Kirk and Miss Patty… the list goes on – although that last one may have been a cheese-induced hallucination. So walk with me won’t you, as I take a lighthearted look back down Lover’s Lane – possibly by way of Lane’s lovers – ladies and gentlemen, for your delectation… Part One.

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I: How to Find the Right Person… And Then What to Say
If you’re a Gilmore Girl, the number one spot to pick up guys is easy: School. Obvious perhaps for school-age Rory, but Lorelai also nearly picks up a single dad as soon as she walks through the Chilton gates and not long after that she meets Max Medina, Rory’s teacher. As if cruising for Dishy Dads wasn’t enough, through her adult education classes and seminars, she meets both Alex – the guy setting up a coffee house – and Paul, the young looking fella from her business class who turns up at Luke’s with his parents. Plus of course she got extra-curricular with Chris, finishing high school summa cum Rory.

The number two spot? Any place serving coffee, from Luke’s to a Harvard coffee cart.

Introductions through friends or family can work out well – or not. Emily springs Chase Bradford (‘Connecticut Ken’) on Lorelai, an unwanted blind date  so awful that Richard helps her escape from the bedroom window. But it can work out better, like Jason ‘Digger’ Stiles who, while not her type, showed that it can be worth venturing outside your comfort zone. For Rory too, Jess and Logan were both friends of the family and you should always check  outside your dorm room corridor for someone like Marty, passed out and naked.

The thing is, after you leave school and start working, opportunities to meet new people decline dramatically and going up to strangers and asking if they want to be your friend can be unsettling for everyone involved or at worst, become grounds for a restraining order. In this situation, follow Lorelai’s lead so that when an opportunity does present itself, you can make the most of it:

1) Be yourself. Is Lorelai ever not herself? Admittedly, few of us are blessed with her gifts for word vomit, quick wit or a gorgeousness that could launch a thousand ships – but being yourself is paramount. If you’re not being yourself, you lose two ways. First, if your potential mate likes the you you’re pretending to be, they’re not liking you; and second, if you do end up together, you’ll constantly have to be someone else. If your potential mate doesn’t like you, being yourself, you can do better.

(A sidenote – I did read somewhere that in applying effort to ‘be yourself’, you’re actually not being yourself, you’re being the version of you that you want to be. I’m not sure there’s much you can do about that, but just saying.)

2) Follow your own path. In following her own interests, Lorelai puts herself in the path of opportunity, both work-wise and romantically. Until she meets Max, Lorelai has kept Rory front and centre, never bringing a guy home or allowing her two worlds to collide. It’s only when Rory begins Chilton that Lorelai can start to relax. With Rory firmly on the right track, we see that Lorelai starts to encounter people in similar situations and with similar priorities and is able to act on them. For example, Max Medina, a Proust-friendly bachelor nimble enough to skip around desks when keeping polite distance but man enough to throw them over should the need arise.

3) Above all, be open to opportunities. Sometimes the most obvious candidate can be staring you right in the face, serving you coffee from behind a counter or watching you moodily from the bleachers. Your greatest admirer might be someone who just loves being around you being you.

… So then, what to say?

Lorelai and Paul

In order not to lose it like Rory’s first encounter with Dean, take a look at Lorelai and Paul as a case study. He’s the guy from Lorelai’s business class who was younger than he looked. You know, this guy:

i always wanted a little brother

Yes, he’s a trifle obscure but indulge me… he asks to borrow her notes and they bond over a vending machine burrito. He opens cannily, at once both engaging and provocative – in the sense that his opener invites a response and respond, she does:

Paul: Once again ladies and gentlemen, she takes the last burrito.
Lorelai: And hello to you too.
Paul: Week after week, how do you do it?
Lorelai: I told you, correct change. You go in for that dollar bill nonsense, you’ll be standing there for ten minutes watching it. Ehhh. Eh eh eh.
(so2e09 Run Away, Little Boy)

No doubt here, she’s being herself and when she finally takes his digits, she opens herself up to both companionship and a truckload of gentle town ridicule.

(Regarding his continued borrowing of her notes, there’s some psych that suggests people like you more if you ask them for favours, rather than if you do favours for them. The so-called Ben Franklin effect works because we don’t like our thoughts to contradict our actions, so when we help someone out, we subconsciously want to continue helping. Sure, you could easily go overboard and cause the opposite reaction but don’t say we never tried to teach you anything here.)

Lorelai and Max

Lorelai arrives late to Max’ curriculum meeting with the pupils’ parents. She’s herself, clumsy and caffeinated.  He’s charming, romantic and demonstrates himself to be kind and attentive, without going overboard. Of course he’s smitten with her, who wouldn’t be? Good first impressions all round.

what in the world

Lorelai [retrying the school coffee]: It… it just keeps getting worse.
Max: Well you know not drinking it is always an option.
Lorelai: Not in my world.
Max: I’m Max Medina.
Lorelai: Nice to meet you.
(s01e04 The Deer Hunters)

And later on, after Rory gets hit by a deer and misses the test, he leaves an answerphone message saying she can make up the credit, thoughtfully including a message for Lorelai:

Max: And if your mother is listening, Lorelai, it was a pleasure encountering you. I hope it happens again.

Note to self: Never answer the phone when Max Medina calls because you’ll be able to live off the warmth of his adorable answerphone messages for ever.

Lorelai and Alex

Sookie and Lorelai go to a business seminar to be seminarred about business and bump into Sookie’s old chef friend Joe and his (business) partner, Alex. Heaven forbid Lorelai be out-conversationed by Sookie and Joe and she makes up her own ol’ buddy history, strong-arming Alex into playing along:

Lorelai: Hey, remember the time you and Fat Sal got locked in the freezer overnight?
Alex: Fat Sal?
Lorelai: Work with me here.
Alex: Oh, Fat Sal, yes, right.
 - Sookie: Then Feldman got into a fight with the bride’s mother.
 - Joe: That’s right! He went after the whole bridal party.
Lorelai: And you remember how me and the Bruiser –
Alex: Never liked that guy.
Lorelai: We found you and Fat Sal in the morning and you were frozen together like bacon.
Alex: Yeah. You know, I still can’t eat bacon.
(s03e11 I Solemnly Swear)

With new people, Lorelai is like-it-or-lump-it: This is how I am. She’s like a Tasmanian Devil and you can’t help but get caught up at the edges of her, like a force of nature.

Sure, Alex was never a serious contender and didn’t have the strongest of starts but he’s a good date, which we’ll see later on.

Lorelai and Jason

Lorelai meets Jason ‘Digger’ Stiles, Pacino-style, a full three episodes after his initial introduction as Richard’s new business partner. It’s a re-introduction since they knew each other at summer camp and their reunion as grown-ups sees her demanding a pound of flesh for his arranging a client trip to Atlantic City, over Emily’s cocktail party.

Jason: Well, I had no idea how much chaos my little weekend was causing.
Lorelai: No, you didn’t, because you didn’t think. You never thought. Back in summer camp, you never thought. “Hey, if I stand up in this canoe, maybe it’ll tip over.” That was the extent of your thought process.
Jason: You’re still mad about that.
Lorelai: I was fully dressed.
Jason: I remember – green T-shirt, no bra.
Lorelai: What?
Jason: Trust me, I was the hero of cabin five for the rest of the summer.
(s04e06 An Affair to Remember)

During the same argument, he asks her out on a date and she only says no because she’s mad and she very nearly says yes because of how much Emily would hate it.  This is why he’s my favourite, he’s not her type yet he gets this close to talking himself onto a date with her.

Lorelai and Luke

While we don’t get to see their first encounter, Luke recalls it on their first date.  We’ll get to the date itself in due course, but here’s his recollection, in all its glory.

Luke: It was at Luke’s, it was at lunch, it was a very busy day, the place was packed, and this person -
Lorelai: Ooh, is it me? Is it me?
Luke: This person comes tearing into the place in a caffeine frenzy.
Lorelai: Ooh, it’s me.
Luke: I was with a customer. She interrupts me, wild-eyed, begging for coffee, so I tell her to wait her turn. Then she starts following me around, talking a mile a minute, saying God knows what. So finally I turn to her and I tell her she’s being annoying – sit down, shut up, I’ll get to her when I get to her.
Lorelai: Y’know, I bet she took that very well, ’cause she sounds just delightful.
Luke: She asked me what my birthday was. I wouldn’t tell her. She wouldn’t stop talking. I gave in. I told her my birthday. Then she opened up the newspaper to the horoscope page, wrote something down, tore it out, handed it to me.
Lorelai: God, seriously. You wrote the menu, didn’t you?
Luke: So I’m looking at this piece of paper in my hand, and under “Scorpio,” she had written, “you will meet an annoying woman today. Give her coffee and she’ll go away.” I gave her coffee.
Lorelai: [grinning] But she didn’t go away.
Luke: She told me to hold on to that horoscope, put it in my wallet, and carry it around with me – [pulls a small scrap of paper from his wallet and holds it out to Lorelai] one day it would bring me luck.
s05e03 Written In The Stars

It is actually killing me to not include the next lines after that. Once again, you get the feeling she knows there’s nothing to lose by losing yourself in the moment.

Next week, Part Two: The Pre-Date, something Kirk could teach everyone a thing or two about.

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Vote! Gilmore Girls’ Luke and Lorelai vs Lost’s Jack and Kate?

Not that we’re biased or anything, but a Hypable poll closes Sunday at 12:30 p.m. ET.  The winner of this round goes against ‘Ross and Rachel’, who themselves beat out ‘Lois and Clark’.  At the time of writing, Luke and Lorelai were just shy of the 250 vote lead required for a ‘win’.

well duh

http://www.hypable.com/2013/02/22/hypables-battleships-classic-tv-gilmore-girls-vs-lost/

I never got past episode two of Lost but would like to see a Lorelai’s best boyfriend poll.

What would you want from a Gilmore Girls movie?

A couple of us have been spitballing on-going story ideas in the comments for ‘Would Rory have a Kindle’ thread and I’m drawn to wonder, what would be on your wishlist for a Gilmore Girls movie? More more MORE Lorelai and Rory goes without saying, but then what else?

pleeeeease bring them back

Was there ever a character combo you longed for, but never got, say… Michel and Gigi – who’d win that catfight? Nudge my memory, did Chris and Jess ever share a scene? They were both at Sookie and Jackson’s wedding, but I only remember Jess seeking out Rory… Or a pairing you wanted to see more of? I for one could do with seeing Sookie at full tilt in her kitchen again.

Joss Whedon would kill off Jackson. Or Mrs Kim.

We’ve all chewed on our fists as the Palladinos edged toward some happy state of affairs only to snatch it away with Luke needing space or Logan being an ass or Emily being Emily – would that feature in a movie or edge it into melodrama? Perhaps a Thanksgiving / Christmas two-parter special rather than a feature-length?

I like the idea of the town pulling together to help Taylor. And now I want to see Kirk drive into Luke’s again – flash flash flash… gotta have some slapstick. BIG HOLE!

Surely we can’t break Luke and Lorelai up for the sake of a happy reconciliation in the final reel… or can we? Maybe Luke has another Rachel in the closet, ooh – his first love comes back to Stars Hollow, sending Lorelai into a flat spin – while Max’s fiancee has booked them a couple of nights at the Dragonfly… drama!

Would someone find themselves on a journey and becoming better for it (hard to type that without sounding like Stewie Griffin)? Maybe Emily comes to terms with the idea of life without Richard – perhaps he’s already gone – oh no, that’s too sad, I’m washing my mouth out with soap. What would it take for Emily to, even resentfully, accept an extended modern family, with Gigi and whoever Rory’s dating now and April?

Kirk makes a couple of million dollars on some crazy investment deal and somehow loses it by the end.

No ground rules here, no stupid ideas. Just… what would you want? What do you need?

The Baseball Cap

Following along in our discussions based on insights from The Gilmore Girls Companion, I wanted to talk about Luke’s Hat. As the author notes, Lorelai later reveals that she believes the hat to be a barometer of Luke’s feelings about her. When he wore it, he was into her. When he didn’t, things were in trouble.

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Do you think the writers intentionally wrote this small detail into the series at this point? Or did it become an opportunistic object to imbue with significance later in the series?

Why Does Luke Dislike Stars Hollow Events?

In The Gilmore Girls Companion, the author hypothesizes about why Luke appears to dislike Stars Hollow events & overall “public-spiritedness”. Our first glimpse of this is in ‘Love and War and Snow‘, when the first town meeting happened.

The author believes that Luke is bitter about Stars Hollow events because his father was a Battle of Stars Hollow re-enactor and now his father is dead.

Do you think this is the case? Why is it that Luke dislikes town merriment?