“Parenthood” 2.15 ‘Just Go Home’ Discussion (Seth VS Christopher)

“Parenthood” 2.15 ‘Just Go Home’
Air Date: February 8, 2011
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Summary: Haddie makes a life changing decision; Crosby and Jasmine begin to have relationship trouble; Drew surprises his mom when he tells her some news about his relationship with his father.

  • Do you like Jasmine less after this episode?
  • Do you think Jasmine is controlling?
  • Will Crosby and Jasmine get married?
  • Does Sarah love her ex still?
  • Are you glad that Adam & Kristina relented?
  • Why did Amber go to see her father play?
  • Do you believe that Seth is sober?

Here’s the big question of the episode for you Gilmore Girls fans – Does Seth remind you of Christopher? How is the Sarah/Seth relationship like or not like that of Lorelai/Christopher?

Gilmore Girls in Parisian Adventures List

Buddy TV just put together a list of the The French Connection: 10 Great TV Parisian Adventures listing a series of 10 shows that have visited France.

In that list, as you’d expect, is the time when Lorelai & Christopher took that trip to Paris… and got married!

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Good quip in the post:

“Of course, the marriage was ill-fated, but hey, they’ll always have Paris … Geller.”

Should Chris Have Seen Lorelai?

In ‘Emily Says Hello‘, Christopher ignores Rory’s request that he stay away from Lorelai. Instead, when Sookie brings up Chris, Lorelai realizes she hasn’t heard from him in a while and decides to call him (I’m going to say this is just being a good friend). Though he tries to blow her off a bit, Lorelai is super nice and concerned on the phone. When Lorelai suggests that Chris bring Gigi by sometime, he accepts. Even names a date. So they plan a lunch.

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Should Chris have ignored Rory on this? Should he have told Rory that Lorelai called him and he was planning to see her? Rory was bound to find out, after all. Or was it unreasonable for Rory to presume that her parents, friends for her whole life, would suddenly stop talking to each other?

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What Did You Think of Sherry?

In ‘It should have been Lorelai‘, we’re introduced to Christopher’s new girlfriend, Sherry. Our first notice of her is via Lorelai, who notices how pretty she is and is visibly distracted by her. Lorelai & Rory invite Chris & Sherry back to their place, and we get our first real “dose” of Sherry.

Whoa, is she one intense woman! She tries soooo hard to please everyone, and is nearly desperate in her attempt to get to know Rory. This overbearing nature immediately turned me against her, I do have to admit it. Good intentions aside – SO annoying!

Lorelai is very offensive about the topic of Sherry. She considers Chris’ girlfriends to be an important topic to know about, and one that influences Rory. Even Emily is on the offensive, calling Sherry “this woman”, though perhaps that’s not surprising given that Emily always wanted Lorelai to be with Chris. Hence the episode title, “It should have been Lorelai”, in reference to who Chris should be with once his life finally got back on track. That of course distracts her – and us… how much of our dislike of Sherry is just wishful thinking to see Lorelai with Chris? For me, I know I never wanted Lorelai with Chris, but I know some of you did!

So, what did you think about Sherry, and how did the episode frame that opinion?

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Why Do Chris' Parents Blame Lorelai?

In ‘Christopher Returns‘, Lorelai is impressed that Christopher comes back to town and that his life appears to be on the right track – he has a good job, wants to be a more active dad… and of course, that makes Lorelai think there could be more for them too. However, from the start, Christopher is lying. He has no money and his business is failing. But he hides it, from everyone.


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It turns out that both Chris’ parents and Lorelai’s parents praise Chris like he’s perfect in every way. They’re critical of Lorelai, even though she’s made a successful life for herself, but Chris is perfect. Any imperfection in Chris becomes Lorelai’s fault - like Chris not going to Princeton or following their ‘plan’. Though how that is Lorelai’s fault, since Chris was never involved as a parent, I have no idea.

Chris’ parents are also mad that he never married Lorelai and followed their ‘procedure’ to get a good job and appear ‘right’ in society’s eyes. They blame Lorelai for this also. It seems like Lorelai can’t win with them – and I think had she married Chris, they still would have hated her because Chris still wouldn’t have had the exact life they’d planned for him.

When Lorelai turns down Chris’ marriage proposal the next day, it’s because she knows he’s trying to latch onto her to escape from all his other responsibilities. It’s like Lorelai is the only one who can see that Chris is the only person at blame for not being successful…

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Is Dean Like Christopher?

In an earlier episode, Lorelai made mention that Dean reminded her of Christopher, though she didn’t specify why. In ‘Rory’s Dance‘, perhaps we get a glimpse of that. Perhaps Dean isn’t the perfect-Mr-Nice-Guy that he’s so far appeared to be.

As yet, Rory isn’t comfortable calling Dean her boyfriend. And he doesn’t like that. He makes a point of cuddling and kissing Rory in front of her friends, almost possessively staking his claim on Rory. And when Tristan confronts Dean, it’s obvious that he’s jealous. When Tristan blocks Rory’s path, Dean shoves him and it turns into a fight. Rory doesn’t seem bothered by it – in fact, she’s sorry that Dean had to stand up for her. So far, Rory seems to be attracted to Dean’s “bad boy” side. Which makes me ask, what other qualities does Dean share with Christopher? Here are some of my ideas…

  • Very self-confident
  • Not shy around girls – has past experience, is forward with his pursuit of the girl he likes
  • Has a ‘bad boy’ side – willing to fight
  • Independent
  • Tall & good looking
  • Wants to flaunt his relationship

What do you think? Did I miss anything? Is anything not right in the list?

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Luke & Chris Named Coolest TV Dads

BuddyTV recently put together a list of “TV’s 50 Coolest Dads“, counting down such TV dads as Al Bundy, Homer Simpson

Coming in on the list at #37 is Luke Danes on Gilmore Girls! But even higher, we have Christopher Hayden at #8!! So, I’m guessing “coolest” doesn’t mean “best” dad ;)

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Why did they choose Luke? “Somehow his daughter became a genius, but Luke is at his coolest when he’s the surly proprietor of greasy food and bottomless cups of coffee.”

Why did they choose Christopher? “He might not always be there for his kid, but Christopher is cool whether he’s on a motorcycle or in a family-friendly sedan. He’s young and hip and can banter with the best of them, an important skill to have when you’re surrounded by Gilmores.”

What do you think of making Christopher more ‘cool’ than Luke?

Also making the list is Harry Wilson on 90210, played by Gilmore Girls alumn Rob Estes.