‘Some Things Stick’ – Gilmore-isms and the Whedonverse


The four new episodes have blessed us not only with some incredible television but also much to talk about, which is appropriate for Gilmore Girls. Every comment we receive on our posts seems to spawn a new conversation and is excitingly overwhelming. So where to start today? How about this from Autumn…

Rory: I’m five by five.
Christopher: What?
Rory: Oh… uh sorry it’s uh… I was watching a Buffy marathon and some things stick.

A few reasons why I love this:

1. In Buffy the Vampire Slayer’s universe, the rebellious character Faith often used the phrase ‘five by five’ to mean ‘everything’s fine’. However nothing in that particular universe was very fine for very long, which should ring some bells for Gilmore Girls fans. Although not the Stars Hollow church bells, obviously.

2. ‘Some Things Stick’. From wicked catch phrases to wry observations, Gilmore Girls has more earworms in a single episode than your regular primetime show has in its lifetime. While Rory and Lorelai can effortlessly paraphrase Kiefer Sutherland’s introduction to 24, more of us can easily quote Gilmore Girls. Don’t tell me you’ve never said ‘CoffeeCoffeeCoffee’ at some point in your life.

But what makes phrases stick? It helps if you’re a skilled writer with a great ear who doesn’t talk down to an audience. Amy Sherman-Palladino once said that ‘audiences are as smart as you will allow them to be’ which is one of many reasons why Gilmore Girls both stands out and stands the test of time. The Spring and Summer episodes have been criticised as being distinctly heavier with drama – but shouldn’t television challenge you and make you chuckle as much as cry or bite your fist while watching a musical segment? I’m pretty sure if there was no musical and the last four words were ‘lived happily ever after’, the internet would have generated its own tumbleweeds.

3. Paris references Buffy a second time, in the Winter episode. Rory and Paris know it, you should too.

Paris: Tell them you’ll pay them back for the semesters you studied Buffy the Vampire Slayer’s effect on the feminist agenda.

4. Just like Gilmore Girls, Buffy combined strong, whip-smart female heroines, a plethora of cultural references and laugh out loud dialogue. Admittedly, with more vampires and less Mallomars.

Trivia fact: Buffy’s creator Joss Whedon was an alumni of the legendary writers’ room for the 80’s sitcom Roseanne, as were Amy Sherman, Dan Palladino and Mike Gandolfi (Stars Hollow bookshop owner Andrew)


5. Watching Buffy will keep you occupied and entertained for its seven seasons, temporarily relieving the continued stress on the internet issuing from your complaints about the Summer musical, Rory’s life decisions and demands for more Gilmore Girls episodes.

6. Along with Amy Sherman-Palladino, Joss Whedon is one of a handful of writers who can knit comedy and drama so seamlessly you don’t know if you’re crying because you’re happy, sad or just desperately confused.

7. Like Gilmore Girls, Buffy was criminally snubbed by the Emmys and recently had its ten year birthday… I suspect it would also do blazing business from a kickstarted revival.

Whedon is well known for removing primary characters, often with no warning and with massive impact to the other characters.  Which led me to wondering how different A Year In The Life would have been if our dear Edward Herrmann (Richard Gilmore) had not passed away. Would Richard’s ailing health still have played a central part in the first and last episodes? Would it have been a very different story if he had been sitting on the bench next to Emily at the end, crystal whisky tumbler in one hand and Emily’s hand in the other?

Did you think the new episodes were as ‘sticky’ as the original shows?
Favourite new Gilmore quotes please.
Does Luke really know *the* Kiefer Sutherland?
Are you aware of any cross-over between Gilmore Girls and Buffy? Shared actors and such?

Wikipedia tells us that Mike Gandolfi is an Emmy, Peabody and Golden Globe award-winning television writer and co-wrote Roseanne’s 100th episode, which was nominated for a Writers Guild Award. Yet he’s never credited in Gilmore Girls as anything other than playing Andrew. I wonder if he contributed in other ways?

Pics c/o Netflix



Rich originally began contributing to GIlmore News as 'Dairyman' in 2013, a reference to the character Dairyman Dick in Tess of the D'Urbervilles, (call me Rich). Here in the UK we were late to the Gilmore party and I don't remember what made me watch my first episode - the one where Lorelai picks Rory up from the police station after she and Logan steal a yacht - but I remember watching it again immediately. And then again. Thankfully, the next show was on the next day and I watched that one three times too. And then the boat one again. I couldn't believe the dialogue was so quick and so funny and I pretended to myself that I was only watching it so I could figure out who I was more keen on - the mom or the daughter. I swore that Aaron Sorkin must have been involved but I couldn't find his name attached anywhere, even on the internet. So I watched and loved and laughed and cried and the day after the series finale, they ran the entire show from the beginning again and Rory turned into a baby so then I was all about Lorelai. Lauren Graham is astonishing ("Mother: Breathtaking") and the show was - and is - lightning in a bottle. It's a treasure for those who watch and get swept up in it, like I did and like the readers of Gilmore News. It's heartbreak and chicken soup, family dysfunction and blind optimism, lighthearted romanticism and balls-out brilliant. Thanks to Arieanna and gilmorenews.com for letting me squat and allowing my inner Gilmore Geek out for air. I worry how it would otherwise manifest.

6 thoughts on “‘Some Things Stick’ – Gilmore-isms and the Whedonverse

  • March 17, 2017 at 10:53 pm

    I tend to combine Buffy with Angel as essentially the same universe so in terms of a show crossover we get Danny Strong as a supporting actor in both Buffy and Gilmore, then Alexis B. and Vince C. from Angel who were both working at the WB in the early 2000s and combined later for Mad Men and a relationship in real life, and finally in fan fiction Alexis D. as Wesly from Angel who I saw as T’Man in our Gilmore continuation noodling.

    With the passing of Mr. Hermann, ASP was kind of forced to do some real writing and find a new universe for Emily. Do you think in some subliminal way that the ‘que sara sara” characteristics of Fanny from BH were morphed with the old Emily to get the new Emily as a bit of a flip to those who prematurely cancelled BH??

    Still don’t think the full book after season seven has been written. Missing the initial mostly positive phase of Rory’s journalistic career [the campaign trail, et. al.], have a modest mid-term placesetter with the continuation writing around 2012, still missing how and what caused Rory to pancake and go all walk-about leading up to AYITL as a result, and finally the concluding yet to be written happily-ever-after chapter that many fans seem to want.

  • March 18, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    Out of all of the shows I have watched, those being Greys Anatomy, One tree hill, etc. Gilmore Girls is my favorite. I have never been more interested and locked in to a show before like I have this one. I love Lorelei’s relationship with Rory. This show not only shows a story about a single mom and her daughter but it also tells the story behind the SINGLE mother and daughter. I only hope Amy Sherman Palladino will make more episodes for “A Year in the Life” because my goodness you would make my world. You honestly don’t know how many people want to see Rory go through motherhood.

  • March 24, 2017 at 6:17 am

    I’d say there’s a good deal more of Kelly Bishop in Bunheads’ Fanny and AYITL’s Emily than before. My goodness she’s so good in the new episodes…

  • March 24, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    Five by five is a military term

  • June 8, 2017 at 5:38 am

    Becky Kirshner Sinclair was also a writer Buffy and Gilmore Girls, and became a GG producer as well. I wondered if that line was a reference to her, or other staff who may have crossed between shows.

  • January 9, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    I love the original Gilmore Girls Series and I was a little disappointed with the revival. The summer fat shaming bothered me because I am a little overweight. I just wanted to throw out there that I think Rory should have a boy and name him Richard. I think that would be a really good different way of handling things. An abortion would be okay with me because I’m pro choice but it’s a very controversial thing and a lot of people might be offended. I am a little biased because I lost my grandpa in 2013 and his name was Richard. I can’t have children so I thought that would be a nice thing. But it really ended okay for me. I mean, Rory’s life was kinda a mess but at least she graduated from college. It is very hard for us 30 somethings these days.


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