In ‘‘S Wonderful ‘S Marvelous‘, we are introduced to two new friends for Rory: Lucy (Krysten Ritter) and Olivia (Michelle Ongkingco). I thought I’d take a break from talking about Lorelai & Christopher and instead ask: Do you like Lucy & Olivia?
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I think it time that Rory make more friends at Yale, since we mostly just saw her with her roommates, with Marty, or with Logan’s friends. Sure, she has friends at the Yale Daily News, but Rory has very few girlfriends. Paris and Lane have always been there, and I guess the writers thought it time we had some new girls!
Lucy and Olivia are hyper and artsy, very different from Rory’s Yale crowd… though they do admit to being obsessed with Paris! At the end of the night, Rory invites the girls back to her place, and we start to see a change in Rory. She seems happier, more independent. Perhaps it’s her confidence in having found friends? What do you think? What is it about Lucy & Olivia that appeals to Rory?
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For me, the best were Madeline and Louise. With Paris and Rory, it was really a great match. So funny and entertaining.
I never really clicked with Lucy and Olivia. It seemed like the writers were trying to do the same thing as with Madeline and Louise but it was far less good.
Plus, I find them boring and Olvia who keeps saying “boyfriend”. Grump.
Lucy and Olivia were so unnecessary in this show!
I never got used to them!
yeah i agree they were unnecessary.
didn’t really enjoy them on the show.
I liked them.
I think Rory liked them because they were smart, funny and strong, like her mother.
I like them for the same reason.
I always wanted more from them, except “boyfriend”. That was annoying.
Lucy and Olivia is all right and okay,but I like Paris better friend for Rory than them.
I dont like that Lucy keep say boyfriend to Marty that so annoying and Olivia is ok person.
I really liked them, it was something fresh, to add to a very stale season.
I forgot these people were even in the show until just now, so I guess they didn’t make that much of an impression on me. Really they weren’t very important to the series.
Rory had so little useful to do at the start of the new season that it was good to bring in a few new girlfriends to interact with instead of just Paris.
The problem of course was that they were used as little more than “window dressing” to set up the later rediculous conflict plot line between Rory and Marty. Another good idea gone bad, thanks writers!!
Of the two liked Olivia much more than Lucy. Kristen’s current gig on Breaking Bad is so much better to showcase her talent than Lucy ever was!!
I don’t think they were particularly memorable since they came in so late in the game. It’s odd that Rory didn’t find a new clique of friends (of her own. Not Logan’s friends or old high school friends etc.) but she has always been independent (i.e. Chilton). It was nice to see Rory branching out and have girls to be fun and silly with at school since she couldn’t be at home to hang out with Lorelai or Lane. I am surprised she didn’t become friends with another bibliophile on campus since it is Yale and there’s bound to be more people with similar interests in that sort of thing but Lucy and Olivia work fine.
Did I like Lucy and Olivia…Well, here’s what I thought the writers were thinking:
“Well, we’ve already put Rory Gilmore into extremely trendy, mainstream, and have made her do nothing but pine for some guy in London for a few episodes so how else can we make her more boring and out of character? Oh, haha, I know! Let’s give her a group of giggling girls to hang with! It’ll be just awesome. They can have sleep overs and talk boys and get in really lame fights! Oh, this’ll be just wonderful!”
So, in a word: no, I did not like Lucy and Olivia. Especially after the scene near the end of the season where Rory, Paris, and those two go skipping off together towards graduation. Like Paris and Rory skip.
I never thought much of Lucy and Olivia. What purpose did they serve to the story? You see this in shows when writers get ideas about bringing in new characters and then realize they have no direction for them to go in so they’re dropped. That’s how I see these two. I would have liked to have seen Rory have her own set of friends outside of Paris and Logan’s circle. Although, Rory really never had close friends throughout the whole series, more or less they were acquaintances, even Lane.
I think Lucy and Olivia were sort of annoying and not quite the girls you’d think Rory would like. They were however quite like the sort of “artsy” student I came across rather frequently when attending a liberal arts college-not exactly the scholars that Rory appears to be, despite being bright enough to get into Yale.
I always thought it was very unrealistic for Rory not to make ANY friends at Yale. Granted she isn’t a friendly person and isn’t even that close to Lane her so-called best friend for 90% of the series but surely she’d run into someone at Yale she’d like to hang out with. She did befriend Marty briefly but once she had a boyfriend, she dumped him just like everyone else. But still, there wasn’t one girl in her dorm or a class she liked? Even just to study with or get coffee? We see her in class and then as soon it is over she leaves and goes home or to study alone. Not really what generally happens in college especially if you are in the dorms and forced to interact a fair amount.
I always thought it was weird how they set up her roommates in season 4 as distinct characters but they rarely actually appeared for more than a few minutes an episode and had little impact on storylines. Did budget issues keep their appearances to a minimum? Did ASP just not know what to do with them? They were there and then never really heard from again (just Janet once more). While you might not be best friends with your roommates, you generally at least talk to them/know more about them. We never even saw Janet & Tania’s room.
Rory was close with Lane…she just wasn’t all girly close with her. Go back and watch Seasons 1-4 if you don’t believe me. I just didn’t like Lucy and Olivia because they were just trying to girl up the show which didn’t really fit. All the female leads (Lorelei, Rory, Paris, Emily, and Sookie) were always feminine and emotional when the time called for it (break ups, bad fights, etc.) but never sentimental and annoyingly girly or overly emotional and that’s what made them appealing. Once the writers decided that wasn’t working was about the same time the show started to decline…
they were so unnecessary, i agree. and so stupid, i was surprised rory would hang out with them, it seemed like they were inferior to her in every aspect. uh i hated them
“Well, we’ve already put Rory Gilmore into extremely trendy, mainstream, and have made her do nothing but pine for some guy in London for a few episodes so how else can we make her more boring and out of character? Oh, haha, I know! Let’s give her a group of giggling girls to hang with! It’ll be just awesome. They can have sleep overs and talk boys and get in really lame fights! Oh, this’ll be just wonderful!” hahahahaha
They just didn’t seem like girls that Rory would be friends with. I wasn’t really a fan of them, they seemed much out of place. Rory talked to more people her freshmen year we saw her interact with some of the girls from the gathering she had her first night there, from time to time. Rory’s one of those girls who really doesn’t make friends on her own, she makes friends with the friends of her friends ( wow, used that word way to much lol).
I didn’t love Lucy and Olivia too much, like the rest of you. Honestly, if they wanted Rory to make some newer friends, they should have brought them in freshman year, that is the year you make a lot of new friends – or even people on the paper! She never interacted with them too much, very unrealistic. I do agree that Rory was never the girly girl type with sleepovers and giggling excessively, but she was at Yale with other brilliant, witty people, I’m sure she would have made friends with, say, a couple of people?
RYAN – that was the perfect description. And it made me laugh. Nicely said.
Everything the writers did in the seventh season was so transparent. Some think it’s great that they brought in Lucy and Olivia to freshen things up but it only made it more obvious that GG NEEDED freshening up at that point. They just didn’t fit. Though I love Krysten Ritter in some of her other stuff.
I love them!
Especially Lucy- veronica Mars alum that she is.
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Lucy and Olivia were very odd, but then when they thought Rory wasn’t good enough for them, that was just too much. They were very flaky, but Marty acting like he never knew Rory was very bizarre too. It’s as though the subtext to the season was, “We’re seniors and we’ve lost our minds!”
I wished Rory had awakened the day after meeting Lucy and Olivia and wondered if it was just an odd dream, and gotten on with her life as it was. They’d have been better as just a one-episode thing than a recurring nightmare. I agree with Mac that Madeline and Louise were preferable to Lucy and Olivia. And Lane – well, I think she and Rory were best buds at a younger age, but as they matured they grew apart in many ways due to their very different interests. But they still maintained a connection because they had “known each other when.”
Maybe Rory was intrigued with Lucy and Olivia due to their obsession with Paris, but that still could have been resolved in a single episode. It just lasted too long.
They were wondeful additions to the show so fun and hyper kinda like me.
I think that Lucy and olivia came at the right time in the show… It gave rory some more best friends in the show besides Lane and Paris thats all she really had as far as best friends… They also brought out a different side of Rory that we maybe have seen once in a while but they just brought out her character out even more than before….